Posted by: John | February 20, 2011

Arab crisis

What effect will the trouble in the Arab world have on us? The obvious one is fuel supply and increase in cost .The bigger one is Financial Default.Dubai and Bahrain have both borrowed hundreds of Billions of Dollars to develop their economies into dynamic tourist locations .Dubai has already had to restructure some of its Sovereign debt .Bahrain is leveraged to the hilt .If unrest continues and the Governments of these or other Arab nations are overthrown.Will it be  the straw that broke the camels back and lead to the total collapse of the world banking system as we know it .

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When some of the benign Dictators try to re establish their foot holds in their post revolutionary countries by handing out rewards to those who stood by them in their hour of need and then rebuilding the bombed out shells of Cities destroyed by their own forces .Will we have to pay increased oil prices to fund the Benign Dictator Father Of the Nations survival .Most of these countries only have one commodity to sell OIL .

Posted by: John | January 8, 2011

Irish Drug problem Dealing with drug use

WOULD THIS BE APPLICABLE TO IRELAND .THIS WOULD SAVE THE LEGAL SYSTEM A SMALL FORTUNE IN LEGAL FEES AND FREE UP OUR COURT SYSTEM FOR MORE SERIOUS CASES.IT WOULD INFLICT AN AUTOMATIC PENALTY ON TO DRUGS USERS AND DISCOURAGE USAGE.THE REVENUE COMMISSIONERS HAVE UNLIMITED POWERS TO COLLECT THEIR DUES AND IN THE CASE THAT YOU DIDNT HAVE THE CASH TO HAND COULD GET A DEDUCTION MADE DIRECTLY FROM YOUR SALARY .THIS WOULD INFORM YOUR EMPLOYER AND POSSIBLY LEAD TO FURTHER SANCTION .THIS IS A REAL DETERRENT.IT WOULD ALSO REMOVE THE BURDEN OF THE STATE HAVING TO PROVE THAT ANY PROPERTY OR MONIES THAT A DRUG DEALER HAD WERE THE PROCEEDS  OF CRIME BEFORE THEY COULD BE CONFISCATED .JUST COLLECT THE TAX DUE .TAX ON A KILO OF COCAIN COULD BE SET AT MILLIONS OF EURO

The Tennessee Drug Tax

In 2005, the State of Tennessee passed a law requiring persons to pay an excise tax on illegal substances. The Tennessee unauthorized substance tax, or “drug tax” or “crack tax”, applies to controlled substances like marijuana and cocaine, and also illicit alcoholic beverages like moonshine. It allows someone to anonymously purchase stamps in person from the Department of Revenue based on the type and amount of the substance ($3.50 for a gram of marijuana, $50 for a gram of cocaine, etc.) with the understanding that doing so cannot be used against them in a criminal court. Possessing drugs is still illegal — the tax works completely outside the criminal justice system. A stamp cannot provide immunity from criminal prosecution, and a conviction of possession isn’t required for the Department of Revenue to assess the penalties.

Opponents to the tax say allowing authorities to levy illegal drugs allows officials to bully people not convicted of crimes into paying thousands of dollars. The opponents of the Tennessee Illegal Substance Tax, and there are many, include a wide variety of groups.

In July, 2006, Chancellor Richard Dinkins ruled that the tax was unconstitutional stating that the tax violates an individual’s right against self-incrimination and to due process.

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Despite this fact, the Tennessee Department of Revenue continues to attempt to collect these taxes. One of the biggest targets for these tax collectors are Bonnaroo concert goers.

The money collected at Bonnaroo makes up part of the $3.5 million that Tennessee has raised since its Unauthorized Substance Tax was adopted in 2005.

When the Tennessee Department of Revenue taxes an alleged drug possessor, that person has an opportunity to pay the tax. If it is not paid, agents may seize and auction off anything of value the person owns.

The illegal drug tax, levied per gram, is $3.50 for marijuana, $50 for cocaine, and $200 for meth and crack cocaine.

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No criminal conviction is needed for the state to enforce the tax, and information obtained from the sale of the drug stamps cannot be used in criminal prosecutions, according to the Revenue Department. At the same time, buying drug stamps does not provide immunity from criminal prosecution.

THE IRISH TWIST .IT IS ILLEGAL TO POSSESS DRUGS SO WHEN YOU TURN UP FOR THE DUTY PAID TAGS YOU MUST BRING YOUR DRUGS WITH YOU AND YOU WILL BE ARRESTED FOR POSSESSION.

Posted by: John | November 24, 2010

A more caring Irish government

The well manicured lawns leading up to the to the imposing buildings alerted everybody to the opulence and the wealth .Entering through the big mahogany doors into the main function room it was obvious this was a special place you could smell the cash .A fine young lady was standing  being prepared for a visit from her lover .Her well combed hair glistened ,her flowing locks had been braided .She had been attended to by many handsome young men and girls .Her every need was catered for,meals ,medical,surgical even emotional she was never left alone somebody was always available to attend to her every need.

Across the road the old red bricked building that was once the county workhouse had been turned into a hospital by the local healthboard.The old lady lay in her bed surrounded by other geriatric patients nine in all .The nurse struggled to cope with attending to everybody .A young local girl mopped up a puddle of piss and removed the shit stained sheets and blankets from old Johns bed .She looked grey and worn out .Her wages had been cut and her electricity bill was overdue.

Across the road the staff had just completed bathing precious as she liked to be called .They had washed every part of her body and blown her dry in preparation for her lovers visit

Old Maureen who was 93 years of age and worked since she was 11 till she retired at 70 was getting a bed bath .Then one of the orderlies inserted a suppository .To deal with a urianatory tract infection that Maureen had .Not even pulling across the screen to protect her dignity from the other patients.

Handsome had arrived in a chauffeur driven customised vehicle and was escorted by his entourage  into the awaiting lady .His excitement raised and he mounted his lady ,seconds later it was all over .Without a backward glance our man retreated to the luxurious carriage and was gone .

In the hospital Paul had just died and the nurse pulled a sheet over his face.Everybody in the hospital was treated the same they were all public patients and had paid for their care through a lifetime of taxes .

Across the road the mare was taken to a paddock  where she would remain for a few weeks until the Vets could confirm that she was in foal .She was a champion race horse and her sutor was a champion also .His owners had been handsomely paid for his services 200,000€ and it was all tax free money .In a full breeding season he might earn 5 or 6 million Euro all tax free.This was as a result of a previous horse loving ministers intervention.

The workers in the stud farm cleaned down the mating parlour sterilising every inch to prevent infection of the next beauty to use the facilities.Talking in an unfamiliar language they completed their task and returned to their billet which was provided by their employer at a subsidised rate from their minimum paid wages.

Lets see if this loop hole is removed in the budget .I doubt it .The big stud farms are mostly in Lowry country .

Posted by: John | November 23, 2010

Be prepared (not for boyscouts)

As we look forward to the birth of the second republic what will it mean for us.The new republic will be ruled by a new set of rules .The rules of least resistance, they will tell us and we wont resist.

With all the money being taken out of the economy we can expect a major contraction in our quality of life.Our bailout will come with strings attached .Policies of cut,slash and deregulate will be forced upon us in return for a helping hand.A contraction of about 30% in living standards can be expected during the lifetime of the next administration assuming they go the distance .In the small print of our bailout agreement ,will be a proposal for deregulation.This deregulation model being the alter on which we were sacrificed in the first instance.

Fine Fails relentless desire for power has led to this sorry impasse .The embracing of the Now defunct Progressive Democrats untried in a small economy free market economic  policies in return for their support in forming a government .Deregulation and letting the market find its own level being the mantra.

One of the mainstays of this flawed model was to reduce the  interference of government on business Deregulate  and unregulate were both considered to be the same thing .The failure of this policy can be demonstrated at the top and bottom of our economy.

The government deregulated/unregulated the banks .They removed the government from responsibility for watching over the banks .Appointed a banking regulator and unleashed the banks to find their own way.Forgetting what the banks had previously done when allowed to divert from standard banking practices.The Insurance Corporation Of Ireland debacle which nearly brought down a previous  administration was forgotten .The poachers were now in total command of the henhouse.

Just in case the ship of state needed to adjust course .Compliant finance ministers were  appointed One such was Charlie Mc Creevie.He who once said “In a number of member states particularly some older ones there is a fear that economic reform will undermine social protection…Such fears is not only misplaced but is counter productive”.With the malice of hindsight we now have to look at the SSIA .This was sold to us as a mechanism to slow down an overheating  economy.in any other economy tax increases would have been applied to put the brakes on spending .We now have to ask the question was this the biggest gamble in Irish political history .Was the purpose of this scheme to boost the capital base of the banks  that backfired.Mc Creevys exodus to Europe should of alerted us . If the SSIA was perceived as a great success amongst his fellow TDs why did he not stay on in the Dail he would of been a certainty for the office of Taoiseach.like many finance ministers before him.Was Mc Creevy aware of the failure of  the free market economic policies that he and the Progressive Democrats had espoused.

The Deregulation/unregulation  of the Irish banking system led to an unlimited inflow of money from over seas lenders to the Irish banks.Ireland became a proving ground for overseas banks and lenders to try out this deregulated/unregulated banking model.It was a no brainer by foreign banks to throw cash at the Irish market.They only had to look back at the record of previous Irish governments to see that if anything went wrong the government would step in and help.The to big to fail idea encouraged them to grow to make sure they were to big to fail.

At the lower end of the economy we have the taxi industry.Progressive Democrat Minister Bobby Molloy deregulated/unregulated this.The taxi industry was an optical exercise in selling the benefits of free market economics  to the public .If deregulation/unregulation of the taxi industry worked it would demonstrate that that the market could find its own level  and could be relied on to regulate itself.How would we judge success in the deregulated/unregulated taxi industry .If people didn’t have to wait to long for a taxi.That would give the illusion of success.No waiting time and a bountiful supply of taxies.No concern for the welfare of the driver or the safety of the passenger.No concern about congestion ,pollution. The influx of unqualified operators into the industry.The inactions of the regulator to achieve one endgame the optical illusion of deregulated/unregulated success.

In banking the illusion of success was written across the skyline in big new buildings. Rows of roof tops all reaching off into the distance financed by Irish banks .Occupied by people who could not affordto own the property but believed that property inflation would negate the negative and result in an ultimate profit for their investment.

Workers who invested in the taxi industry in the hope of providing a job for themselves and a means to  pay for their homes .Have seen their investment wiped out and their prospects of earning a living obliterated by free market deregulation/unregulation.Caused by oversupply.

The free market policy of deregulate/unregulated will always fail .Because it cannot regulate the human element out of the equation .Greed ,Avarice ,Pride  are all human desires and cannot be eliminated by deregulation/unregulation.

In banking the deregulation/unregulation model has failed yet the IMF,ECB will insist on more deregulation/unregulation as part of the conditions for their bailout.In banking the freemarket dictated .That if somebody wanted to borrow money from a bank and the bank could borrow that money off of someone else for less than you are willing to pay them in interest.That was all that mattered. Do the deal there was no regard for the purpose or value of the loan only the profit margin.

In the deregulated /unregulated taxi industry the same rules applied cheap entry with no regard for quality or viability of service.The only difference between the two deregulated/unregulated  industries Is that banks got to big to fail.The taxi industry got too big that it is guaranteed to fail as we know it .

The IMF will insist on more deregulationof services .Transport,Energy,Water,Hospitals,this will lead to a race to the bottom.a minimum of services available without charge.A big reduction in wageswhen we accept this bailout and the regime that goes with it .We can expect to see about a 30%reduction in our incomes over the lifetime of the next Dail if they go the distance.This will lead to a further collapse in property prices which will lead to greater losses for NAMA.and this in turn will lead to a total collapse of the Irish banking system.This is inevitable if we don’t find a way forward and quickly.

The FG policy of divesting of the family silver by selling off state assets like the ESB ,CIE.Coilte and any thing else of value.Is the last throw of the dice to try to avoid total collapse of the state.Ireland needs to exit the Euro currency as soon as possible and set a rate for the Irish currency against the Euro which would allow us to trade out of our difficulties.

We should introduce a working visa exemption for American Citizens.This would incourage American multinationals to invest in Irelandas they could bring in their own management teams.

One of the qualities of the Irish is we understand Grey.Things don’t have to be black or white they can be grey which can be described as dark white or light black.Its this charisteristic that has led to our present predicament.Fine Fail,s lust for power which led them into the grey area of coalition with the PDs.That tempory little arrangement that will now stay with us forever.We possibly have one more chance to get this right and should not be forced into making rash decisions.

The two examples offered of Deregulated/unregulated industries should alert people to the possible outcome of any bailout .After the dust of deregulation /Unregulation settles and we have reached the bottom .It will become obvious that we cannot sustain our low cost low paid economy .The big players will survive and gobble up the small ones .Then prices will increase as all our services will be controlled by monopolies  we will have to pay up .There are no free lunches .Bailout an interesting word .To bailout a sinking ship .Or Bail the price you pay to get out of jail while awaiting your sentence.

Posted by: John | August 15, 2010

Irish jobs Where have all the jobs gone?

WHERE HAVE ALL THE JOBS GONE?

As a child growing up in Inchicore, Dublin, I always wanted to be worker who made stuff. I got a Meccano set for Christmas when I was 7 years old and my dreams of building bridges and big sky scrapers was put into practice .Nuts and bolts turned shiny bits of steel strip and yellow and blue panels into all sorts busses trains bridges.

Why was I so fascinated by mechanical things? What had ignited my interest in engineering? What makes a farmers child want to farm? It must be the environment, it must be their surroundings. Coming from Inchicore I was surrounded by engineering .As a child making my way to school I would be brought up Spa road to Goldenbridge convent and Sister Jarlet .I remember stopping outside the gates of the Spa Road works and looking in at all the men making buses. The grey gate into the yard would be closed over at 1 o’clock and the men would come out through a small wicker gate and head home for dinner .This was possible as most of the workers lived locally. I had a collection of pop rivets that I had collected on my way to and from school every day. Rivets were used to fix sheet metal to the frames of the buses that were being made at Spa Road. Rivets to a small boy looked like a nail wearing a top hat.

As I got taller it was possible to stand on my bed and look out my bedroom window and see over the wall into the Inchicore Works of CIE and see all the trains. Big new bright ones and old black ugly things .Now I appreciate how beautiful the ugly black trains really were .Thousands of  local men women and boys were employed in the works. Men from Ballyfermot  ,Drimnagh ,Bluebell from all over Dublin they came to work. Mothers would insist that we played up our end of the road and away from the main gate of the works on Tyrconnell Park when the horn blew in the works to announce the end of the working day for the men .It also blew early morning and at lunchtime. The CIE horn was complimented by the bells from the Oblates church on the main road that struck on the hour and rang out the angelus at noon and 6pm every day. The 5 o’clock horn would signal the stampede from the gates of the Inchicore Works .It was the 1970s and bicycles were the preferred method of transport. There were very few cars and mothers were afraid we might get knocked down .The charge of the bicycle brigade was intermingled with men running to catch the 21 bus at the green on the top of Ring Street .All this excitement was over in a matter of minutes and everything returned to normal. Boys played football and girls played ball or beds. This exodus of working men could also be seen from the front gate behind the big wall and by the Ballyfermot workers who preferred the Khyber pass gate .This was a narrow passage that ran down from the works to the Ballyfermot Road beside the Seven oaks nuns.

Sometimes we would visit in Ballyfermot on a Sunday .Walking up the Naas Road, past the chimney of the Lambs jam factory where all the girls got summer jobs turning the fruit harvest into jam and some of the boys got picking jobs. Walking past Landsdown Valley where the record factory and the shoe factory were. Looking up the road to the big redbrick tower of the Mercedes factory seeing what time it was and how long it would take my little legs to walk the length of the road while holding onto the side of the pram. In the shadow of the big tower was another car manufacturing plant-Datsun. This was not as big as the others but my friend’s da worked there with hundreds of others. They made the 120y.Walking down the Kylemore Road you came upon the big one – the FIAT car plant. This was one of the really good jobs in the area. Thousands worked there making cars. Sometimes when we would visit we would get Coca Cola from a friend who worked for Coke at the top of the California Hills (hundreds of people were employed there)and  we would get some Kit Kat from the woman next door who worked for Rowntrees (hundreds worked here too ). She was able to buy bags of broken chocolate from work. I remember one of the people we visited asking would we bring her collection of minstrels off the side of the Lyons tea packet. (40 minstrels got you a share in a prize bond for a year) to the Lyons factory on the canal beside Kelloggs.  All these brands still prosper today but all these jobs have been lost to the locals.  People in Rialto worked for Guinness who  even built some of the houses for their workers .Fleetwood and Varians made the paintbrushes locally. Today most of the locations of these jobs have been developed into housing units that the locals can’t afford to buy and many lie vacant.

The local tradition of turning out top quality trades people for generations is denied to our young people .Good quality production jobs have been transferred out of the area or out of the state completely .We have gone from being the engineering heart of the country to being one of the darkest unemployment black spots in the country .Over the last 40 years a whole tradition of engineering excellence has disappeared and no efforts to replace these quality trades has  been made .We must bring pressure to bear on government to bring jobs into our area to promote the Inchicore works site as a base for manufacturing and return the tradition of engineering excellence to our community .To promote apprenticeships for boys and girls who do not wish to follow an academic future. So once again granddads and fathers can sit with their sons and daughters and discuss the family tradition of supplying plumbers, carpenters, welders or whatever trade they choose to follow .We have become a community in turmoil. Our young people cannot see any hope of a career in the future and those who have lost their jobs are loosing hope of gaining employment .We need a new direction ,we need to promote ourselves as a nation of quality crafts people with the skills and trades to make and develop any product .

How many more jobs have gone? How many more jobs will go?


Posted by: John | May 9, 2010

Irish House Prices

I LEFT SCHOOL WHEN  I WAS 12 BEFORE THEY COULD EDUCATE THE INTELLIGENCE OUT OF ME .

About  6years ago I was going to return to school as a mature student and study to be an auctioneer and valuer  (it looked like a good move back then) As a mature student my application would be by interview so I started to read up on the property market in preparation for my interview .It became obvious to me a secondary school dropout that something was wrong very wrong So I prepared my self for my interview armed with all the facts and figures i could muster and a speel about wanting to be able to help people find the house of their dreams .Forgetting that this was an interview to go to collage not get a job.

When I got to the interview they had no interest in what I knew only if I would stick to the course for the full two years.The guy doing the interview told me I had made a good choice of career move as the property market was on the up and he could see it carrying on for some time .He explained that trading up was the biggest earner in the industry .You get to sell the existing premises and possibly find the new one .

I then asked could he not see a problem in the property market .Did he not see the flaw.What flaw  he asked .So I offered this example  Dublin Corporation sold off their housing stock  at great discount to the market .This had reduced the available social housing  .So it had become the norm for working people to buy their own homes.I bought my house for 10400 punt or about 14000Euro in1988.In the height of the boom the house next door to me sold for 240,000 euro .Now where I live is a very working class area people have to work to survive .So I offered this example .I defined working class as an average wage earner.He drives a forklift in a factory .She works in the office in the same place .

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Him =takehome  460

Her =……………..460

Allow  10% for personal use a pint a paper or a smoke -92 or 41 euro each

Car to get to work  =petrol maintenance insurance purchase price =128 per week

Feed and cloth two adults and two children .Electricity ,Heat ,Tv ,Phone =500 per week

You have 200 a week left to pay for a Mortgage and insurance policy .I calculated that the largest mortgage that you could afford over 25 years and be comfortable that you could make the payments on was 85,000.So my argument was that if all you could afford to pay was 85,000 then the true value of the property was 85,000 and not 240,000 So the thing was that based on your ability to pay the property market was on average 60% overvalued . The man with the degree doing the interview told me I was wrongI believed I was right so when I was offered a place on the course I declined .I backed my own judgement .Now the thing is I left school at twelve and I could see the problem.I would never be able to get a job with a bank im not smart enough for them.For those worried about our average couple .They save the monthly childrens allowance to pay for school books ,Christmas and a weeks holiday in Kilmuckridge

Since I first wrote this things have changed .The new Social Charge ,Property Tax and Water charges will impact greatly on your spending power .I now suggest that a 3 bedroom xcouncil house in Dublin is worth about 60.000€ and you can add a little extra for the availability of local schools ,shops and bus or Luas service . Privately built houses in close proximity to council houses are worth very little more .In some cases the x council house is better proportioned ,better built and has larger gardens .

Two bedroomed apartments are worth considerably less than houses and one bedroomed apartments are probably unsalable.

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Now here is the thing.Homes .ie still quote houses in my estate at 170.000 euro .So they are still overpriced .If the government allow the market to truly find its own true worth the losses incurred by NAMA on their property portfolio will destroy the economic recovery So the catch 22 is do the government allow the market to correct itself or do they introduce new tax cuts or reliefs to protect their investment .If they introduce tax breaks to stimulate sales then they protect their investment but the downside is we the purchaser pay over the odds for our homes.The plus side of inflating house prices is that those of us who own homes will benefit from the inflated price and those who have existing mortgages will be insentivised to continue payments and not default.So heads you lose, tails you lose

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THE National Treasury Management Agency (NTMA) says house prices here have further to fall as disposable incomes also decline.

The views are revealed in a wide-ranging review of the economy published by the NTMA last night which was shown to prospective investors during roadshows to drum up support ahead of this week’s successful bond swap deal.

“Residential property prices have further to fall but the commercial market has probably bottomed,” the review says.

The NTMA is the state agency responsible for managing the national debt and controls NAMA, the biggest owner of commercial property in the country and the biggest owner of residential property after the State.

Resilient

The outlook for the property sector was part of a mostly upbeat economic assessment. The NTMA said the economy grew last year for the first time since 2007, thanks to exports that have so far remained resilient despite the global slowdown.

Economic conditions are improving but the NTMA warns the success seen so far could be under threat. Domestic demand may continue to fall this year, hurting the chances of general growth in the economy, the report adds.

It notes families are getting poorer and disposable income has fallen every year since 2008 due to rising taxes and falling wages. Household wealth is back to 2003 levels.

The NTMA says the reduction in the interest rate Europe charges for bailout loans helped make those kind of trends easier to swallow for struggling families. But even with Ireland doing all it can to hit fiscal targets, the euro crisis could still prove a threat to exports, and therefore to the entire recovery.

On a more upbeat note the NTMA says that Ireland is now living within its means — with a current account surplus. The banks have been successfully recapitalised, the threat to the 12.5pc corporation tax rate is gone and the economy has started to become more competitive. The presentation says NAMA could make an operating profit of €600m for 2011.

- Donal O’Donovan

Irish Independent

March 2012

New figures show that residential property prices nationwide fell by 17.8% in the year to February, the biggest fall since December 2009.

The Central Statistics Office said this compares with an annual rate of 17.4% in January and a fall of 10.8% in the 12 months to February 2011.

The CSO said that residential prices fell by 2.2% in February, which compares to a drop of 1.9% in January and 1.7% the same time last year. Prices are now 49% lower than their highest level in 2007, the figures show.

The CSO figures show that residential properties in Dublin fell by 1.2% last month and are 20.3% lower than a year ago. Dublin house prices decreased by 0l7% in the month and ere 20.2% lower from a year ago, while Dublin apartment prices were 22.9% lower when compared with the same time in 2011.

The price of homes in the rest of Ireland fell by 3% in February compared to a fall of 1.5% the same time last year. Prices were 16.4% lower than in February 2011.

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By Donal O’Donovan

Saturday April 21 2012

The Central Bank’s new deputy governor delivers stark warning over the effects of crash

HOUSE prices could take decades to recover from the property crash even if the economy starts growing, the new deputy governor of the Central Bank of Ireland warned last night.

Experience of booms and property crashes in other countries suggests the economic recovery here will be slow and house prices will recover even more slowly, he said.

Central Bank deputy head Stefan Gerlach made the comments at a conference on housing markets and financial stability at NUI Galway.

It was Mr Gerlach’s first major speech since the appointment of the Swedish economist last December sparked controversy, when it was revealed that he is being paid €50,000 over the Government’s “€200,000 salary cap” for public-sector jobs.

Classic

Last night in Galway, Mr Gerlach said Ireland had experienced a classic housing boom. House prices here rose faster and higher than in most booms but the bubble and burst is in line with the pattern seen around the world, he said.

It means experience elsewhere could help forecast the likely trend here over the coming years.

That evidence points to a sustained housing slump, because credit-fuelled booms are typically worse than other booms and the combination of a housing crash with a financial crisis is especially damaging.

“Recessions that coincide with a housing bust are, on average, longer and more pronounced that others,” he noted.

A study comparing crashes in the likes of Scandinavia with in Korea and Japan revealed the wider economy recovered much faster than house prices, where they recovered at all.

“While gross domestic product (GDP) in this sample of countries typically recovered to peak levels within six years, the recovery in house prices was much delayed,” Mr Gerlach said.

“In the Nordic countries, the recovery took between 10 and 22 years, house prices have not yet recovered to pre-crisis levels in Korea and continue to decline in Japan.

“Overall these graphs suggest that economic activity in Ireland will recover only gradually, and that it may take a long time before house prices return to their level in 2007,” he said.

That evidence may in part explain why the Central Bank has signed off on plans for so-called “negative equity mortgages”.

The new mortgages will let people bring home loans with them when they move house- even if they sell for less than they paid.

It could see people end up with mortgages of as much as 175pc of the value of their new home — as they end up carrying much of the old mortgage to their new home on top of any new borrowings.

That flies in the face of efforts to rein in property lending by insisting on tighter discipline, but if the Central Bank is convinced house prices are set to stay low there is little point in waiting for a property recovery to lift people out of negative equity.

That makes more extreme ideas such as the new-style mortgage more palatable.

- Donal O’Donovan

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THEY STILL REFUSE TO VALUE HOUSES BASED ON WHAT THE BUYER CAN AFFORD TO PAY.

THE average house is undervalued by up to €50,000, according to a new report on the state of the property market.

This means a house that sells today for the national average of €160,000 would be worth about €210,000 in a healthier economy.

In its report, the Central Bank says house prices have been pushed down too far and are as much as 26pc lower than they should be.

Years of plummeting prices and the crisis in the banks means that conditions are far from ideal.

Upward

But the new research suggests that house prices could begin rising again if the banks begin lending, or new lenders come into the market.

However, the report warns that the “logical” price of a house will only be realised again when buyers regain their confidence, and banks have the money to be able to lend again.

Prices have fallen by 49pc on average during the crash.

In the past 12 months prices have fallen by 16.3pc, but the pace of the fall has slowed, according to recent statistics.

The Central Bank points out that we have a rising, relatively young population and houses have become twice as affordable in recent years.

It says this gives the market more chance of recovery than the likes of Japan, which has endured the worst property crash in global history.

But banks are only giving out about 10pc of the mortgages compared with the height of the boom.

They are struggling to find the balance between beginning to give out more mortgages and not being seen as lending recklessly again. They are also coming to terms with a massive lack of funds.

Despite the fact that property here is now undervalued, house prices could continue to fall for the foreseeable future as lending and confidence are at rock bottom, the Central Bank says.

The study used a series of calculations based on factors such as interest rates, income and housing stock to determine whether house prices had fallen too far.

Logical

One test showed prices had fallen 26pc further than was justified, while other results put the figure at somewhere between 16pc and 12pc.

The researchers called their report ‘Why Are Irish House Prices Still Falling?’ as they investigated the reasons why prices had crashed further than was deemed logical.

They said buyers were holding off and driving prices down because they feared further drops and were worried about the broader economy.

The banks’ need to reduce borrowing under the terms of their rescue agreements were also factors explaining the massive price declines.

Analyst Brian Devine of NCB Stockbrokers said the report was right to emphasise that Ireland‘s rising population and relatively young population would lead to a stabilisation in prices.

“Unlike Japan there are fundamentals that allow recovery,” he added. However, he said that prices might fall another 10pc before reaching bottom as “economic models can’t take confidence and bank lending into account”.

While the Central Bank research suggests house prices are lower than logic dictates, it cautions that an upturn in the property market “appears some way off” because of a low level of loans and property sales.

- Thomas Molloy and Laura Noonan

Irish Independent

ANOTHER ECONOMISTS OPINION

By Claire Murphy

Tuesday May 01 2012

EXPERTS warned property prices will fall further – despite claims by the Central Bank that they are already undervalued.

The bank said prices are undervalued by up to €50,000.

A new report into the housing situation here has found that the price has been overcorrected by between 12 to 26pc.

Consumers are holding back on spending on property because they expect further falls, the banks’ economists, who carried out the research into Why Are Irish House Prices Still Falling?, said.

And there is an uncertain economic outlook in Ireland which is also halting progress on property.

A measly 11,000 new mortgages were issued last year, the report outlines, which is a 30pc drop on 2010.

In 2006, as many as 110,000 mortgages were issued.

However, economist David McWilliams anticipates that house prices will fall another 15pc to 20pc.

“I think the problem for the Central Bank is the fact that house prices now are falling sufficiently close to their worst case scenario. If house prices keep falling, the banks will have to go back to look for capital.

Morally

“And I don’t believe politically, financially or morally that Irish people have the stomach for this. The balance sheet of the middle class in Ireland is broken.

“On one side of the balance sheet we have assets which are falling in value — houses. And on the other side we have debt which has remained firm in terms of monthly costs.”

In standard economics, when the price falls, the demand rises, the economist outlined. “But in this balance sheet recession that we have — when the price falls, the demand falls. The economy is trapped.

“It seems to me that if you look around the world, investors will not come back into the market until yields are sufficiently high. The only way the economy can come back is if the investors get involved again.”

Mr McWilliams believes that the Central Bank needs to go to the ECB and look for a serious deal on mortgages, which means getting the mortgage book off the banks, otherwise they will continue to be zombie banks.

“The way you get out of an issue like this — one is house prices have to fall to get that yield to rise for investors. Number two, the only way you will get the average person to start spending again, at the core of this is a growth problem for the economy,” he said.

- Claire Murphy

 

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A QUICK HISTORY

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Posted by: John | April 25, 2010

What do you want to be when you grow up?

The first day I went to school I played Mala and crayons  and learned to talk Irish” Na be  Ag Caint” the teacher said .So we crossed our arms and put a finger up to our lips just in case a word might get out. Weeks later when we knew our colours and were able to ask to go to the toilet in Irish .The teacher asked us what we wanted to be when we grew up .I wanted to be a firemagade and the boy beside me wanted to be one too .Some boys wanted to be army men and others wanted to be like their Daddy. We were only four and a half and already we were being assigned our destiny.

Sixth class and we could read and write and think a little for ourselves, Now with the aid of our parents and the teachers we would decide would we go to Tech or Secondary school. If you wanted to work with your hands and take a trade you went to Tech .If the teachers thought you might be smart you went to secondary .When you got your Group cert you would leave school age 15 and try to get a job or stay on to do your leaving .If you got a good leaving cert you would do the entrance exam for the civil service or the bank. Very few of the people I knew went on to university .It was the late seventies and the country was in recession there were very few jobs so emigrating was also an option head off to England or America if you could afford it just like some of our parents in the fifties

2010 school leavers are once again faced with the dilemma what to do now that they have completed their education .There are no jobs to go to .There are great further education opportunities but what is the use of being prepared for a job that does not exist ?

Debs balls will follow the end of your schooling. Digital cameras will flash and capture the moment ,the posh frock , the dickiebowed boys all smiling away enjoying the occasion .The photographs of the great occasion will be printed off and placed into the family album. Boyfriends and girlfriends will be invited to look through the album to your great embarrassment .Your first haircut, your first tooth, the photo of you in the bath, your first day at school when they started to prepare you for your future .Work hard,pay attention,  you will do well .You worked hard you paid attention .You left school with the intention of going to work .Working hard doing well only to find that while you kept you side of the bargain others did not. There is no work and not for the first time, your fathers and your fathers  fathers all experienced something similar but nobody seems to have learned any lesson from the past. How much of this situation is of our own making? Just look around your living room – is there anything in the room made in Ireland? The answer is probably nothing .Now repeat the process for every room in the house the answer is most likely the same. Some of the best furniture in the world is made in Navan but we insist in going to IKEA or Argos. We never ask where was that made. The Irish-made produce may be a little more expensive but its cheaper in the long run .As long as we keep people in work we create wealth that filters through the economy and creates more jobs . At the moment the only Irish made product we seem to want to purchase is sandwiches.

The school photo of you sitting at your desk, arms crossed smiling through a toothless grin, school book opened thinking to yourself when I grow up I want to be a photograph man or a teacher cos I love Miss .The school book has now been replaced by a news paper looking through situations vacant or an application for a visa or unemployment benefit. They say as we get older we get more like our parents.

Posted by: John | April 8, 2010

Management/Maintenance Contracts

How many tenants of multi unit apartment blocks are locked into an agreement with the developer to pay a management fee? How many owners of apartments need the permission of the management company to sell their property? Many of the providers of maintenance services are the same developers who built the building and are in default with the banks but still get monies from their developments some of which they no longer hold title to. This is a sinister development that has not been fully explored by NAMA .If a developer’s main source of income is derived from holding maintenance contracts, how much of this capital do you think he will reinvest into service provision? Government have promised legislation on this issue but it is slow in bringing it forward .Is this just another example of looking after your friends?Now the government are considering a property tax which will be imposed on top of a maintenance charge.Most new homeowners would of included the cost of stamp duty in their mortgage borrowings so now they face a triple hit .

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WHO SHOULD PAY

Electricity cut off at ‘luxury’ Belmayne residential block in fees row

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Belmayne estate in Balgriffin, north Dublin
Belmayne estate in Balgriffin, north Dublin

By Edel O’Connell

Wednesday May 02 2012

RESIDENTS at an apartment block were left in the dark after their electricity was cut off in a row over unpaid fees.

Keenan Property Management, which is overseeing the maintenance of the apartment block in Belmayne, north Dublin, said it had “turned into a debt collector” as people struggled to pay their maintenance fees.

The Belmayne scheme already hit the headlines in March after it emerged that up to a quarter of the 960 houses and apartments in the development could be at serious risk of fire.

Launched in March, 2007, at a party attended by Louise and Jamie Redknapp and Alan Hughes, the Belmayne estate was promoted as the last word in Celtic Tiger living and was heavily plugged by a series of glamorous advertising billboards around the capital featuring scantily-clad models.

The estate now lies half empty and its residents are struggling to pay their maintenance fees. Repairs are being carried out to bring walls and ceilings up to fire-safety standards. NAMA confirmed that it was making loans to Stanley Holdings, the developer carrying out the repair work.

Property loans owed by Stanley Holdings’ parent company, Kitara, are already in NAMA.

Kitara was part of the original development teams behind Belmayne and still owns around 80 units in the estate.

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OMC’s are facing a funding timebomb caused by service charge “won’t payers” who are deliberately avoiding their legal obligation, making a mockery of the legal system and causing great hardship for their neighbours.

Service charges are one of the most contentious aspects of apartment living, but payment is a contractual obligation which buyers sign up to at the time of purchase. Most owners do pay and expect others to do likewise. For that, they expect the OMC to deliver a range of services through a management agent. These services include: insurance, lighting, lifts, fire systems, cleaning, landscaping, refuse services and reactive and preventative repairs and maintenance, both short and long term.

The collective payment of service charges — on time and in full each year — is not only crucial to the day to day maintenance of the owners’ property but important in the preservation of the buildings and the value of their properties.

The “won’t pay” types who undermine the arrangement are not people who “can’t pay”. Those who can’t pay may be victims of recession, who can’t pay all sorts of bills. But they generally engage with their OMC and negotiate payment plans to clear their debt without imposing the burden of recovery procedures and costs on other owners in the development.

The “won’t payers” are different. They are not victims of economics but parasites who for too long have been abusing the goodwill of their neighbours who have been subsidising services for them while they simply shirk their legal and moral responsibilities.

Such parasites can create a funding shortfall of 15pc-25pc in their developments each year. Extrapolated over a number of years, this figure compounds and quickly adds up and solvency threatens the OMCs. Cash flow problems initially may mean deterioration in basic services like cleaning, impacting on the physical appearance of the development. In time even more significantly the shortfall depletes the OMC’s reserves and its ability to undertake essential repairs or redecoration work which, left unattended, damage reputation, letting and sale values.

The “won’t payers” do not consider the long term consequences of non-payment because, to them, the other owners represent a cheap source of finance.

They are facilitated because the system is flawed and lacks incentives and deterrents.

The penalty for non- payment is negligible as defaulters are only liable to a low level of interest and legal costs incurred against these people cannot always be recouped.

The law allows utility firms such as the ESB to cut off service for non-payment but the OMC has no such similar right. It is generally unconditionally bound under the terms of the head lease to continually supply services irrespective of payment or not.

A workable forfeiture provision (similar to a banks right to foreclose), akin to that provided in commercial leases does not operate in residential head leases in Ireland. Forfeiture has not been part of our culture but in Finlandwhere it is, it acts as a real threat and deterrent to defaulters and seldom is there recourse to such a measure.

Furthermore the Irish legal system for recovery of service charges is very slow, burdened with procedural rules and expensive.

Anecdotally, it is claimed that as much as 60pc of the district court cases are for the recovery of service charge debts. The legal fees for a €2,000 service charge case can vary from €350 to €1,250 excluding vat, outlays and commission.

These fees are essentially being borne by the other owners. It infuriates compliant owners, and justifiably so, to know that their funds are being used to pay solicitors rather than to run the estate where they live. The recovery costs should be automatically awarded against the debtor unless exceptional circumstances exist.

The Multi-Unit Development (MUD) Act 2011 introduced many improved arrangements and consumer protection for apartment living but missed an opportunity to tighten the inherent flaws that are facilitating defaulters.

Problems with the system start with anonymity. Defaulters often avoid their ownership being registered and their documentation being furnished to the OMC, which hinders all administration including the debt collection process.

In relation to any legal proceedings there are also extensive rules for the scripting and service of notices/summons which make it more difficult to recover outstanding charges.

A legal claim can take between 18 to 24 months by which time the “won’t payer” will owe one or two additional years which, because of the rules, cannot just be added to an existing claim.

Even when a court grants judgment to the OMC, payment may not occur and it’s also necessary to register the judgement to try to get the payment if or when the property is sold.

Fundamentally the mainstream judicial system is not appropriate for the recovery of service charges. The OMC is not a big corporate. It is a not for profit mutual, or collective body, with the sole purpose being to benefit all owners. Non payment by one results in a levy on the other owners. Therefore the rights of the collective group should have (at times) a higher standing in law than the rights of one member.

With rising debts and the threat of insolvency, OMC’s require a radical overhaul of arrangements in order to minimise “won’t pays”.

Future head leases should contain penal interest rates. Legal fees should always be recoverable against the property and there should be a requirement that service charges are paid in full before the property can be put up for sale similar to the BER certificate.

Under the current draft of the Personal Insolvency Bill 2012 there is concern that service charge arrears will be captured under the proposed debt settlement and personal insolvency arrangements and thus, perhaps unintentionally arrears will be unrecoverable under the new legislation.

It is important that service charges be excluded to avoid such a consequence which would further add to the OMC’s difficulties.

In the meantime, in order to resolve debt issues and, subject to appropriate conditions for health and safety and requirement for notice, the OMC should have the right to cut off any and all services to the apartments of defaulters.

Otherwise the compliant owners, who wish to avoid the adverse impact of absent services and protect themselves from insolvency, must fund a special levy to bridge the gap. A bridge too far for many.

Siobhan O’Dwyer is chairperson of the Property and Facilities Management Professional Group of the Society of Chartered Surveyors Ireland. She is director of O’Dwyer Property Management Ltd.

- Siobhan O’Dwyer

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